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to beat president obama. a look at the war in afghanistan. now the longest war. how do we get out? does obama's policy differ from president bush's and what is the effect for generations to come? joe and mika and willie join in the conversation later this hour. we begin with the debt crisis. they are trying to make a deal on the deficit. houses of congress are rolling out separate compromises to safe off a default. harry reid is meeting with mitch mcconnell to craft a solution to appeal to both parties. according to reports, this would do the following. it would allow the debt ceiling to be raised three times for a total of $2.5 trillion. in exchange, some $1.5 trillion in spending cuts would be enacted. the plan would be established to identify new deficit cuts. proposal, already, getting a lukewarm response from the fellow republicans. among them, the freshman snar mark arubio and tom coburn. take a listen. >> it gives the president the ability to raise the debt limit. the debt limit isn't the problem. the problem is the debt. the plan, as outlined to me isn't a credible solution. >>
-brother shot dead in afghanistan. why it could be a major boost to the taliban and huge blow to the united states and nato. plus, nbc's exclusive interview with outgoing u.s. ambassador and blunt speaker sometimes, carl eikenberry. >>> a secret videotape raising new questions about michele bachmann's husband. doctor toldm is best absorbed in small continuous amounts. only one calcium supplement does that in one daily dose. new citracal slow release... continuously releases calcium plus d for the efficient absorption my body needs. citracal. to your kids' wet skin. new neutrogena® wet skin kids. ordinary sunblock drips and whitens. neutrogena® wet skin cuts through water. forms a broad spectrum barrier for full strength sun protection. wet skin. neutrogena®. host: could iting to geico for full strength reon car insurance? or more host: do people use smartphones to do dumb things? man 1: send, that is the weekend. app grapgic: yeah dawg! man 2: allow me to crack...the bubbly! man 1: don't mind if i doozy. man 3: is a gentleman with a brostache invited over to this party? man 1: only if he
place by the end of the week. assassination in afghanistan. president karzai's brother a key political power broker gunned down by his own bodyguard. what does it mean for nato forces in the south? a new focus on the back mab campaign. this time it's about her husband. his clinic under the microscope for using a controversial therapy to turn gay men straight. >>> and good day, ern. i'm savannah guthrie in for andrea mitchell today. it is back to the bargaining table for congressional leaders this afternoon three weeks from today to the debt ceiling deadline. both sides say they want a deal, but there's been in compromise or breakthrough yet. we go to kristen welker at the white house. we know officials are meeting this afternoon. the president making some news about what might happen if the debt ceiling is not raised in early august. >> that's right. president obama in an interview earlier today was asked whether the united states would have enough money to continue paying its social security checks on august 3rd if a deal isn't reached over the debt ceiling on august 2nd, wh
sergeant first class leroy arthur petry for his actions in afghanistan. he is the second living recipient of this award since the vietnam war. seven others have been awarded the medal of honor posthumously for their heroic actions in iraq and afghanistan. he is an elite army ranger. he lost his right arm below the elbow in may of 2008 when a grenade exploded when he threw it away saving the lives of two fellow soldiers. sergeant petry is 31 years old from santa fe, new mexico, and he and his wife ashley have four children. he will be the 85th recipient of the medal of honor. nbc news military analysis and retired general henry jacobs, and always a pleasure to have you with us on these ceremonies and the last time we watched this ceremony was salvatore giun giunta, and you know the emotions that come with it. you know what this sergeant did to save lives. it was a summer and surrounded and he put his life on the line and that is what the soldiers do everyday. >> his unit was doing the most dangerous of dangers which is to conduct a daylight raid. he was shot initially in both leg
and ultimately afghanistan. this is the first attack in three years. we saw what happened last time. there was restraint by the indians. but indian diplomats tell me with the next attack they may not be restrained if they find out that it did emanate from pakistan. >> that's right. they have been cautious to point blame until they have more facts. the fact that it was simultaneous attacks. this dazy chain operation of the facts three at a time, and the fact that this was done in mumbai the financial capital of india. that really has the attacks from three years ago in november of 2008. >> these other pakistani groups. pakistani groups that have been linked to pakistan's government. they're not just separate terror groups. they are groups that are closely connected with elements inside pack tan ji intelligence. we should point out we don't know. early reports can be deceiving. there's always a lot of suspicion because there is paranoia in islamabad and mumbai and new dele. american officials have long complained that pakistan doesn't focus enough on its terror groups and focuses too
afghanistan, the paper reports the possible halt of $800 million in assistance and equipment. that could have an effect on u.s. troops in afghanistan. the report says the aid could resume if pakistan takes tougher action against the taliban as well as al qaeda. meanwhile, secretary panetta told reporters on the plane it's time to focus on defeating al qaeda once and for all. >> i think we had undermined their ablthd to conduct 9/11-type attacks. we had them on the run. >> secretary panetta met with american military officials. atia abawi is in afghanistan. good morning. bring us up to date. >> good morning. panetta's very first trip as secretary of defense to afghanistan, before he landed he brought up the situation with al qaeda. he said, quote, the strategic defeat of al qaeda is within reach. this is a time to go after him, especially after bin laden. let's listen to what he had to say. >> now is the moment following what happened with bin laden, to put maximum pressure on them because i do believe that, if we continue this effort, that we can really cripple al qaeda. >> panetta said that,
th. there's a lot going on today, including leon panetta's first trip to iraq and afghanistan as the newly appointed defense secretary where he recently stayed they were on the verge of, quote, defeating al qaeda. >>> plus, road rage on the tour de france. a french tv car sends a group of cyclists flying into a barbed wire fence. we'll have the fallout ahead in sports. whoa! >>> but first, let's get to the news live at 5:30 a.m. here at 30 rock in new york city. >>> with weeks to go before the aulgt 2nd deadline, congressional leaders are heading back to the white house today for another meeting to try to reach a deal on raising the country's debt ceiling. after a 75-minute session with lawmakers last night, president obama is expected to hold a news conference this morning to discuss their deficit reduction efforts. this comes as the front page of "the wall street journal" reads, deficit negotiations hit reset. divisions on spending cuts and tax increases remain. the journal and others report that last night president obama urged leaders to strive for the largest package poss
cheney and koe cokie roberts as well. >>> defense secretary leon panetta visits afghanistan. the paper reports a possible halt of $800 million in assistance of equipment. this could have a dramatic effect on u.s. troops in afghanistan. this report out of the "new york times" says the aid could resume if pakistan takes tougher action against the taliban as well as al qaeda. meanwhile, defense secretary leon panetta is in afghanistan as i was mentioning. panetta is meeting with american military leaders as well as afghan officials. atia abawi is in kabul, afghanistan. he's making strong remarks when it comes to al qaeda and how he wants to continue stamping them out. >> reporter: good morning, thomas. that's absolutely right. on his flight from d.c. to kabul he did speak to reporter on the plane that he was on about al qaeda and said that the strategic defeat of al qaeda was within reach, pointing to the death of osama bin laden, pointing to the information that we were able to retrieve from his compound, including the names of key leaders that they'd like to go after. and he says that t
of defeat. we are in kabul, afghanistan, good morning to you, atia. is secretary pa at the time in panetta sounding very upbeat here? >> reporter: it sound that way. he did speak to reporters saying al qaeda was -- the strategic defeat of al qaeda was within reach. he talked about finding the treasure-trove of information in the compound. that bin laden was hiding out there. including 10 to 20 names of key leaders of al qaeda, whether they be in yemen, somalia, pakistan or north and central africa. but on this trip in afghanistan panetta is expected to meet with his counterpart, the defense ministry in afghanistan, and he is also expected to have a press conference with the afghan president, hamid karzai. aside from that, the most important part of the visit is talking to the u.s. commanders on the ground here in afghanistan, talking to the u.s. servicemen and women as well who are fighting the fight within the country. right now the strategic time within the war and afghanistan, the president announced the withdrawal plan by the end of this year. 10,000 americans are supposed to leave the
, is in afghanistan. pinetta flew into the capital, kabul, and he told reporters on the plane there that al qaeda is on the verge of defeat. the u.s. captured important information about the terrorist group from osama bin laden's compound in may. now is the moment to go after cloudy. we'll have a live report from afghanistan coming up in our next half hour for you. >>> casey anthony making a surprising move just eight days before her release from a florida jail. the 25-year-old was acquitted of murder charges earlier this week. she was convicted of lying to police in the death of her 2-year-old daughter, caylee, back in 2008. let's go live to orlando, nbc's lila luciana. what happened in jail? >> good morning, alex. well, we've heard reports that casey anthony has declined a request for a visit by her mother, cindy anthony. she has not spoken to her family since 2008 while caylee was still missing following her attorney's consents, and she said she did not want to see her mother. cindy anthony had also requested so see her before the trial, but she declined. we don't know where she'll go once she
, defense secretary leon panetta is in afghanistan. panetta is meeting with american military leaders and afghan officials. nbc's atia abawi is in kabul this morning. bring us up to speed on what leon panetta is saying that al qaeda is basically on the run and close to being completely stamped out. >> reporter: good morning, thomas. the new secretary of defense's first trip as the defense secretary here in afghanistan, prior to arriving he talked to reporters on the plane about how he feels alg al qaeda is going right now, the war against terror. he says the strategic defeat of al qaeda is within reach, primarily pointing the the death of bin laden, the information they got from the compound including names of different key al qaeda leaders. he says this is the time to actually end the war with al qaeda. let's listen to what he had to say. >> now is the moment following what happened with bin laden, to put maximum pressure on them because i do believe that, if we continue this effort, that we can really cripple al qaeda. >> reporter: al qaeda aside, leon panetta arrived in afghanistan
just ahead. >>> a small group of women in afghanistan have been given an important role negotiating alongside 60 afghan men trying to broker a lasting peace for their country. but the nine women claim that old habits die hard. and they have been margin alzheimer'sed in the talks. they aren't the only onings. while girl schools have been reopened in that country and the burka is no longer required by law, afghan women are treated like second-class citizens. one group in the u.s. is seeking to change that, not just in afghanistan, but other oppressive countries around the world. anita mcbride is now a senior to the george w. bush foundation and joins me now. we're taking about the constitute of economic empowerment for women. you had a two-day conference here. it's a step up. that's the theme of this conference. we've seen afghan women and women from rwanda from other conflict zones who have really become empowered to become entrepreneurs? >> absolutely. this organization raep believes that freedom and democracy in the spirit of entrepreneurship is the path to peace. it's founded by a
on jobs in baghdad, kabul, kandahar, in other parts of the iraq and afghanistan. and the irony of course is that we are being told that we are in this terrible crisis, when the republicans brought out a military bill that increased the military by $17 billion, gives more money to iraq and afghanistan, and i have to say i am very nervous that the president might agree to keep troops in iraq next year, which is longer than george bush wanted to keep them there. so, yeah, i think we can in the short-term save a lot of money by bringing the troops home with no negative job impact. but to get back to your question, what mr. bernanke said correctly is, yes, over the long-term, you should have a plan for deficit reduction from both higher taxes in my judgment and spending cuts. but in the short-term, if you were to do that, you would slow down the recovery. and that's why it's a timing issue. >> in terms of what you just said there about defense cuts, and what might be possible in this congress, i feel like the things that i have heard from republicans that seem like they have sort of silver li
the democratic experiment continues in afghanistan. now, before you laugh, jefferson frank franklin used to throw their shoes at each overall the time. first let's get to the news. here at 5:30 a.m. you're at 30 rock. >>> in a few hours the president will meet at the white house with senate leaders. the meeting comes as today's "washington post" reports the president is considering major changes in social security and medicare as part of that deal. that, though, in exchange for republican support for new tax revenue. he says the president's plan will cut more 2457b trillion over the next ten years. that's up from the original plan of $2 trillion in savings. this comes after president obama held his first-ever twitter town hall yesterday where he continued to push pressure on capitol hill to get a deal done. >> i don't thirg we should even get to the constitutional issue. congress has a responsibility to make sure we pay our bills. we've paid them in the past. the notion that the u.s. is going to default on its debt is just irresponsible, and my expectation is that over the next week to two weeks
to afghanistan as a member of a ranger helicopter assault team. on may 26th, 2008, sergeant petry and his unit was in afghanistan, part of the rugged mountainous region near the border with pakistan that's perfect for hiding out in. sergeant petry's unit was assigned to make a risky daylight raid on a compound why u.s. intelligence said a top al qaeda commander was hiding. the moment the helicopter landed they came under fire. within minutes as they moved into a court yard in the compound a machine gun round went through both of his legs. he was bleedly badly. he nevertheless aided another wounded soldier leaving him to take cover behind a chicken coop in the courtyard. he did this with severe injuries to both of his legs. sergeant petry launched a grenade in the direction of the enemy fighters, who were shooting at the rangers. that provided enough cover for a third ranger to join them behind the chicken coop to evaluate the wounds. an enemy grenade exploded in the courtyard. it further hurt the ranger that he was helping and the third ranger. a second grenade thrown by the energy fighters la
the threat of default or downgrade. >> ron insana there. meanwhile, u.s. troops in afghanistan are worried they may not get paid because of this debt showdown in washington. gener good saturday morning to you, atia. so what was this meeting with the troops like? >> reporter: good morning, alex. the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, admiral mullen, made his way down to the southern part of afghanistan, the most volatile part in the country. his number one question from the soldiers, airmen, sailors and marines wasn't necessarily about the military strategy but it was, will we get paid. and his response was, i actually don't know the answer to that question. i have confidence that at some point in time whatever compensation you are owed you will be given. obviously the americans here in afghanistan, very worried about what's going on in washington. many of these men and women haven't seen their families for several months. many won't see them for a full year and they're wondering if those family members are going to be getting those paychecks. they're risking their lives here in afghani
back the wars in iraq and afghanistan. what's notable about this, it doesn't include any new revenues through taxes. as you know, the white house has been fighting for this for weeks and now under senator reid's plan there are no new revenues through tax reform. the president has come out and said schae ports senator reid's plan. he says it is a reasonable approach but we're still deadlocked just eight days out. >> thank you, kristen. >>> and serving on the budget committee. good afternoon, senator. >> good afternoon, dylan. thanks for a chance to be he. >> thanks for joining us. insight what you think this deal ends up looking like? >> well i think a number of us are disappoint we're not going to do the bigger deal that the president and leader reid have been pressing for that a number of us republicans and democrats in the senate pressed for. i view leader reid's offer as a last-ditch effort to avoid default. my hope is that republicans can hear us saying, yes. it's a deal that doesn't touch medicare, medicaid, social security or include revenue increases. hits the $2.7 trillion tar
, in the cases of two men who died in cia custody, one in iraq and one in afghanistan, there is enough evidence to warrant a full criminal investigation. the department of justice says it agrees with those findings, and it will begin that criminal investigation. nearly a decade after the government put the cia secretly into the business of holding prisoners offshore, five years after the president of the united states admitted to the country that we were doing that, the treatment of two prisoners of the dozens held in that system, will be investigated. the other 99 cases, case closed. >>> earlier today, the top republican in the senate, mitch mcconnell, formally invited president obama to come up to >>> earlier today, the top republican in the senate, mitch mcconnell, formally invited president obama to come up to capitol hill and talk things over with senators. come have lunch with us, let's talk. invitation came at 10:45 eastern time this morning. an hour and a half later, with the republican invitation still out, still pending, out came senate democrats to call the republican offer to the pr
and afghanistan to the relatives of the 2005 london transit bombings as well as the royal family. the editor has been arrested. david cameron has opened a public inquiry. for the first time in over a month, the yemen president spoke out. he's gone over eight operations. his complexion was darker, hands and arms covered with bandages. facial hair was gone. he made no mention of when he would return to yemen and welcomes power sharing as long as it is within the country's constitutional frame work. diplomats said there was a slim chance he would return. tell me what this means and your reaction to what you saw in terms of his appearance. >> it was bizarre. it's part of a larger power. look at yemen and egypt. what you see are prolonged stalemates and situation that is looked helpful. the middle east is in for a long, hot summer. a difficult winter and beyond. this is not going to be anything like a quick move to democracy and these countries. you can have large, ungoverned spaces where terrorists move in. it's a challenge for the united states. >> what is the largest threat to our national securit
karzai's brother rocking the world of afghanistan. joining us now from kabul, nbc's atia aboui. how did this happen in the fist place? we're getting new details, i know, about how exactly he was assassinated. >> good morning, willie. also referred to as awk was the younger half brother of president hamid karzai. he was shot and killed in his home yesterday in kandahar. a trusted security guard and confidant went into the home using that trust, lured awk out of a meeting, sent him into another room where they were alone the sign papers. as awk was signing those papers, that's when mohammed shot him. it's unclear if he shot hit twice in the head or three times in various parts of his body. right now what's confusing everyone is where did mohammed shoot karzai? what we understand is they're from the same klan, that they're, in fact, distant relatives. the taliban claimed responsibility saying they've worked with sadar mohammed for some time now. but many believe it could be because of a tribal feud which confuses everyone when it comes to afghanistan, because we have to remember there's mo
places in afghanistan where there are stories and continuing reports that iranian munitions and arms are arriving there. >> you are right. it is an ongoing concern. i have to put it in perspective though, because this is nothing from the weaponry coming in from iran. because if you look at that coming in from pakistan is two times less than iran. that doesn't mean it is insignificant, and we have to look for the trends in the weaponry, because if it is escalating in a major way, we have to think about responses and those could include the full range none of which are satisfying, but we may have to put more forces in the west of afghanistan and devote more afghan capability to the western border which is one of the defensive things you can do and think of some offensive actions. >> indeed. now, we are guard to pakistan, isn't withholding $800 million potentially self-injurious, because we, america, is relying on the pakistan army to fight radical islamic terrorists in their own backyard without those fund, and doesn't that stymie our attempt to fight al qaeda? >> absolutely. this is a
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's got to step in? i've been here. i've been doing afghanistan and bin laden and -- the greek crisis. >> he has a point, if you go by the number of bills passed. through the first hall of this year, 2011, how many bills become law? 18. 15 of those laws named a building after somebody, extended an expiring law or appointed an official to the smithsonian institute. counting all them, 18 laws, this year's not so big number. >>> up next, kansas is inching closer to an all-out ban on abortion. the state approve as new set of regulations critics say is aimed at shutting down all abortion clinics. all three of them in the state. we're hear from both sides. >>> you're watching "hardball" on msnbc. i made. when i got my medicare card, i realized i needed an aarp... medicare supplement insurance card, too. medicare is one of the great things about turning 65, but it doesn't cover everything. in fact, it only pays up to 80% of your part b expenses. if you're already on or eligible for medicare, call now to find out how an aarp... medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare i
part d, and iraq and afghanistan on the credit card. so, democrats like me, and i even think that bernie are absolutely opposed to raiding social security, or raiding medicare to supplement the tax cuts for the wealthy, and on the other hand, to the extent that we do anything with social security, like for instance, should we raise the cap? i e kind kind of think we shoul because it raises more money into the social security, but it has to go there to make sure that the program is solvent. we would resist the president if his approach, and he has not outlined what it is, but to take away benefits on medicare and social security. >> what do you say to the constituents who look at this impasse, these stalled talks and say, look at washington. they can't address the commitments that have been made financially, that we need to pay for. they can't even get to the bottom of an agreement on this issue. >> i e say thsay they are right. there is an enormous frustration with the american public of having a debate as if paying the bills is optional. a great country has a great commitmen
still in iraq and afghanistan, he has a rough road ahead. he told military families they are on the top of his agenda. >>> steven colbert started a superpac. it's part of a spoof on campaign finance laws but the hearing is real. he can use his show to produce ads. >> i'm reminded as we stand here of the pilgrims who on this very spot, but in massachusetts, filed their papers to form clement pack, to be free of the tyranny of king george who refused to allow a single corporate on u.s. presidential elections. >> i don't remember that from my history book. today in washington, republicans are taking things personally. hitting back at the president who laid into them for planning to go home next week on break instead of working on a budget deal. >> so maybe if he would take a valume and come down and talk, it might be helpful. >> it's the kind of language you expect from a leader of a third world country, not the president of the united states. >> frankly, he should be embarrassed. unfortunately, the threshold of embarrassment here in washington is different than the rest of the world. >> i
and us. for the men and women overseas, the temperatures in kandahar, afghanistan today, 106 and baghdad 117. these are conditions they've been working under for years. >> unbelievable with all that heavy gear. thanks, mara. good luck out there. >>> u.s. stocks are flat after taking a beating yesterday. it comes as financial instability grows in europe with mounting concern that greece will default and new fears that italy could be next. nicole lapham joining me. for all of us afraid to look at our 401(k) statement, what is the prognosis? >> you can look. we are still higher for the month. we are still higher for the year. we are up for the third straight day. we dealt with greece. we've been flat. when i came in early this morning we were off significantly in terms of futures. we narrowed down a little bit because we are still hopeful there is going to be a resolution. greece was small potatoes compared to what italy could be. then the risk of contagens in the likes of spain and portugal. we heard spain failed some of those stress tests. we are looking at bank stress tests closely out o
. two wars in iraq and afghanistan, that if we were to draw down earlier for example in afghanistan, would deal with long-term debt issues. so let's put those things on the table. corporate loopholes, instead of just turning to the piggy bank of social security and medicare. >> what about medicaid? would you cut that? >> the challenge that we have for medicaid is that we want to make sure that we don't simply shift the burden onto the states, which really can't afford that right now. again the conversations about these entitlement programs, while i find, you know, might be important for us to engage in, we're conflating apples and oranges when it comes to lifting our debt ceiling and dealing with the major causal factors with our long-term debt. >> chris matthews plays "hardball" 5:00 and 7:00 eastern only on msnbc. the place for politics. >>> well, the hits keep on coming for rupert murdoch's embattled media empire. amid allegations that reporters at two of his other english newspapers, the "sun" and sunday "times," hacked into the bank account, legal files and medical records of f
to the senate. >>> general david petraeus officially handing over command of coalition forces in afghanistan. that happens today. general john allen is taking over for petraeus as he moves over to take over cia allen says he plans to maintain current campaign. nato forces are beginning an initial handover of military enforcement to afghan troops, specifically in a central province. there are currently more than 150,000 forces in afghanistan, including 100,000 american soldiers. it comes as taliban says it killed a key adviser to president hamid karzai as well as a member of parliament in kabul this weekend. this just one week after karzai's half brother was gunned down by a member of his own security team. the taliban also took responsibility for that assassination. nato also says an explosion killed three service members in eastern afghanistan. this morning. >>> still ahead today on "way too early," if you still have a knot in your stomach from yesterday's world cup finals match between u.s. and japan, you're certainly not the only one. we'll show you the full heart-breaking highlights if y
. >> me being over there in afghanistan and seeing my mom in jail, it's really hard on me. >> that's my boy. >>> orange county, california conjures images of well-manicured neighborhoods and a surfer culture that gave birth to the beach boys. but blending seamlessly into the heart of one of its busiest neighborhoods is a reminder of the county's other side. the theo lacy jail is the largest of five jail facilities in the orange county system. it sits on 11 acres and has a capacity of more than 3,000 inmates. >> let's go. hands behind your back. back row go to the house. >> marc gonzales is one of them, and except for his jail-issued t-shirt and scrubs, he could easily be mistaken for any other fun-loving oc teenager. >> i love surfing. i love the ocean. it's the best. the promised land here. nothing could go wrong except for robbing a weed store and getting arrested. my mom is in a lot of shock right now. it's the first offense. my baby is robbing weed stores? what does he need that for? >> unlike most inmates in the orange county jail system who have not been convicted but are awaiting
of afghanistan and iraq. >> the republicans we have on the show say they are open to the loophole cuts. are they? >> tom coburn is. he provides a lot of cover. >> i was wondering what mike was quoting. how many pages can you get read in the seventh inning stretch? >> it's in between innings. it's the entire game. >> the tough thing for president obama, he's going to say he will extend the deadline, if it looks like a deal is coming together. this, to me, is the difficult part. if all he had to deal with was the senate, i have no doubt in the next week you would have a deal that would work. the house is difficult. he's going to need to know from nancy pelosi and john boehner the votes are in place. today, not even close to that. >> you will lose 100, maybe 120 republicans right out. if you get most of the democratic caucus and boehner pulls in 100 republicans, it gets done. it's up to the democrats. i think boehner can get 100 republicans. can pelosi get 120 democrats? >> right. okay. we are going to get to bill karins on the heat in a minute. before we go, new developments in the hacking scandal
revenue in terms of what we are spending. $120 billion alone in afghanistan. alone. that doesn't include aid. 47, 000 troops still in iraq and we have tax cuts in place. >> the united states is strategically overextended worldwide. what are we doing borrowing money from japan and europe and persian gulf. we are overextended. >> exactly, pat. >> the country is overextended. you can't start fighting wars and not raise the revenue. >> maybe you ought to end the war. >> here we go. we have to do a little bit of everything. >> let's do one plan. we talk about both sides in broad strokes. walk us through what is actually inside the deficit reduction plan on each side. >> fair enough. >> simpson sets the standard. they came out with $4 trillion in deficit reduction. the paul ryan plan got about the same amount of deficit reduction, $4 trillion. the obama plan is $2.5 trillion of deficit reduction. the biden talks that have been going on are at zero, really, but they are talking $1 trillion spending cuts, maybe. by the way, even if the plan were adopted, we have $6 trillion more debt ten years f
as the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff discovered for himself this weekend. >>> here in southern afghanistan, soldiers and marines are dodging bullets. when they had a chance to throw questions at the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, their number one concern was the ongoing debate back home over the debt ceiling. >> the checkbook is not unlimited. >> they told soldiers if the talks fail they have to fight, but they may not get paid. >> there plenty of you living paycheck to paycheck. if paychecks were to stop it can have a devastating impact and a devastating impact pretty quickly. >> mullen told marines given the state of the u.s. economy, all the services they said cut back in the size of the force and maybe even military benefits. >> we will have to tighten our belt and prioritize and make hard decisions. >> in the middle of a war zone like many americans, these service members are worried about their jobs and asking what the heck is going on back in washington? >> here's a look at today's schedule. the senate will be in at sdmoon the vote will be set for 1:00 p.m. we will bring you
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/11. that was the argument that was being made that we had to do all of these other things and got into afghanistan and iraq. so there's no -- there's no argument from me or any republican. in fact, most republicans while you saw the losses in '06 and '08 came from those very republican whose stopped supporting the party, because it moved away from its conservative fiscal principles with respect to spending, by spending so much money. that's been the crust of this whole argument that helped form the tea party. the tea party folks by the way, did not start in 2009. >> right. that's my point. >> they've been in the works some time. >> they were absolutely silent. my point. >> when it came to spending the first coal health of the country. >> to bring it could current day, instead of going through the history, which i appreciate. right now we see that the discussion is back on potentially eliminating tax loopholes, lowering the corporate rate, which i am a big fan of and also part of the paul ryan plan. which was passed. sometimes being, a the speaker of the house can be a little like herding cats. i'm wonderin
on the heels of the most absurd unfunded wars in iraq and afghanistan and unfunded trillion dollar medicare and bills and tax cuts for the wealt wealthy. i, myself, voted for all of this. back to my original point. >> welcome back to "morning joe". the medicare plan was a $7 trillion plan. most republicans have been watching. let's take a look now at the morning papers. the san francisco chronicle and a virtual fallout if congress fails to raise the contract. they took out $5.4 billion in loans, covering the bills in case money stops flowing in from washington. new york times under pressure from democratic colleagues, seven term representative, david wu said he would resign from congress following accusations of inappropriate sexual encounters last year. she was much, much younger. before the allegations, he was politically vulnerable. two others were going to challenge him. they have been talking about this going back to college, possible rape charges from his time in stanford. drivers in l.a. may regret paying ticket violations from traffic cameras. they admitted paying the fines is volun
on today, including another bit of discouraging news out of affe afghanistan earlier this morning. plus a mystery celebrity caller helps us celebrate our birthday. will it be brad and an gelee na. star of thety silver screen, ron jeremy perhaps or will it be former president harry s. truman. you'll find out a bit later in the show. first let's get to the news live here at 5: 30 a.m. at rocker feller in new york city. >>> john boehner is now redoing if you want to put it that way his plan to redo the debt limit. the speaker's plan would fall short of the $1.2 trillion in spending costs it proposes, and the specific cuts would be $300 billion less than thought. this comes as the front page of today's "wall street journal" reads boehner plans faces rebellion. the journal and other papers reporting the speaker is facing backlash from conservatives in his party about the amount of spending cuts in his bill. that's why he's going back to refashion it and come up with something they can vote on thursday. a source tells nbc news that majority leader eric cantor tried to rally party members yest
party support and served as a captain in the air force, including tours in afghanistan and iraq. congressman, welcome very much. >> thanks. >> happy to have you. and welcome to everyone. doris, sometimes satire can be the most damning in terms of summing up where we are. "the onion" newspaper has this headline this week -- "congress continues debate over whether or not nation should be economically ruined." if the question is whether washington is broken, make the case that the answer is yes. >> i think there's no question it's broken. you know, our country was created on the principle of compromise. think about it. the states versus the federal government, senate versus house, north versus south. and i remember once, one of the old framers was asked, what is the three principles of this new government you've created? well, the first is compromise, the second is compromise, the third is compromise. something's happened where compromise has become a terrible word in washington. it's partly because the parties have become more ideologically separated. henry clay was the great comp
-- i know you've been hearing this morning about the troops in afghanistan who are worried about being paid. how close are we to default really, and what do you say to those people who are concerned? i know you have constituents that certainly will be affiliated with the military. what do you say to them, they think their families won't get the paychecks they need. >> well, we're not going to default. that's number one. and even if we did, social security and the military are going to get paid. so what i say is don't worry, this is going to be solved. this is a political problem of people wanting to have it their own way. now, you know, you simply can't govern this country this way. you have to have people of good will that will come together as the good book says, come, let us reason together. you can't stick in your ideological stance in your partisan stance, you've got to come together for the good of the country, and that will happen somewhere in the course of tonight and into tomorrow. >> and, sir, i know that you could probably very easily finger point to members on the extreme o
at the white house yesterday.t( sergeant petri lost his hand saving two fellow soldiers in afghanistan is only the second livingq servicemane1 to receive1 honor since the vietnam war. >>> now for a look at your national weather, we turnxt. nc meteorologist bill karinsxd wit your weather channel forecast. bill, good morning to you. >> gogbmorning, lynn. >> a lot of people have their eyes glaring ought going, tell me, buddy, tell me something is going to changed. >> as advertised, we thought it would be the hottest day of the summer, and it was. good morning, everyone. today, a little better in some areas, but still oppressivelyt( hot through many. the temperaturesok didn't tell e story becauseñ1 the humidity levels were so high. ownsboro, kentucky, you had the dubious honor of 120 after factoring in the humidity. 00 in rally, is 00 ine1t( jacks air cold front hasxd sagd to the south. so we're taking o-tbe1 new york1 d.c. anzdçó baltimore and ph/,e from the extreme heat today. dryer air is moving in. still hot, but not as humidity. same will go for all of kentucky, the ohio valley. the areas
notes to families who succumb to suicide in iraq and afghanistan. the official note from the president reads this decision was made after a difficult and exhaustive review of the former policy, and i did not make it lightly. this issue is emotional, painful, and complicated, but these americans served bravely. they didn't die because they were weak, and the fact they didn't get the help they needed must change. since the beginning of the wars in iraq and afghanistan, more than 1800 members of the military have committed suicide during active duty. even more staggering, more active duty troops have died in the last two years from suicide than in combat. now the president will be writing letters to the families of the service members. here's hoping he has to write very, very few. greg keesling tol us his wife cried for the first time in two years. we're going to heal, he said. we're going to heal. that's
in iraq and afghanistan. what they need to look at specifically is with the promise of doing tax reform in the fall through december what is the guaranteed tax reform gets done and there is new revenue. you eluded to it. republicans say if democrats don't keep up their end of the bargain we get rid of president obama's individual mandate. democrats say we get rid of the bush tax kults 250 or above. they're working on the trigger mechanism. it's going to take many differentists and turns. it's looking like wednesday is the closest thing we've heard all along in this process that a firm deadline needed to work out the compromise. >> luke, some exclosive issues in that mix. this is going to be a really interesting negotiation to follow. >> a long way to go, andrea. there's still a long way to go. next week's the real crunch time. we'll have a fun weekend. >> thank you, luke up up on the hill for us. senator kent conrad chairs the budget committee and is a member of the gang of six and joins me now senator, your colleagues have been exploding over the secrecy of this. you can say nothing is
are slightly more in favor of the war in afghanistan than the rest of republicans. they've been only barely more likely than republican voters in general to see federal government debt as a serious threat to the country. on this show last night, wayne slater, who has been covering the potential presidential candidacy of rick perry as well as the politicking in iowa explained the republican base right now that he's seeing as a seasoned political reporter as tevangelical. i think that's much closer than the -- closer to the truth than common wisdom has been. however, this year, however much that drives the pundit class to distraction about how different politics will be this year, really what republicans are dealing with is a traditional conservative base this year that is extra obsessed with abortion. there is nothing new under the sun. maybe the universe is trying to remind us of that by having newt gingrich run again. when you look at the evidence, seems like an upsurge of the faction the republican party has harbored for a generation now and ignoring the religious and theocratic impulses
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